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the president won re-election. there's no realistic chance of this being offer the books in the foreseeable future. i think they have to change really the focus of trying to take down this law. >> greta: a.b., you can talk about that, or the fact that jill kelley, the socialite in tampa in the petraeus/broadwell spat has had her honorary counsel pulled by the country of south korea. >> it's devastating, absolutely. >> greta: devastating? >> really is, but i need to add to the healthcare, because republicans know they'll not going to get a repeal bill with president obama re-elected, but conservative opposition to this has not softened at all, and looking to target implementation, implementation of this law. it's going to be very difficult. everyone looks how the benefits will kick in, and obamacare supporters believe it will just grow more popular. we saw on election night, it was split perfectly down the line, those who wanted a repeal, those who didn't. we're really looking at a problem implementing the act. as y
the president won re-election. there's no realistic chance of this being offer the books in the foreseeable future. i think they have to change really the focus of trying to take down this law. >> greta: a.b., you can talk about that, or the fact that jill kelley, the socialite in tampa in the petraeus/broadwell spat has had her honorary counsel pulled by the country of south korea. >> it's devastating, absolutely. >> greta: devastating? >> really is, but i need to add...
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i know a close election, but, it is not as if they were just wiped off the face of the earth? what are they doing? >> i think there are a couple things here, dan and i were talking, if they go ahead, and go along with this, then they are setting a tone and putting themselves at risk for midterm elections, they can't afford to lose at this pointolitically. but i think they know, that if theyment long-term tax solutions, a simplification of the tax code if that i want to talk about entitlement reform they have to concede a bit. i think one thing that could help both sides if we had a well the more transparency in this conversation so it is not just republicans that are strong armed here. neil: you know, dan, you are closer to this than i will be, but i have to say between this concession of republicans to entertain what cou be more substantial revenue hikes, so say nothing now of embracing the idea of suzanne rice -- susan rice hearing on the benghazi thing on capitol hill, now all of a sudden, she is not a fool, there is something weird going on, i see them folding on one issue
i know a close election, but, it is not as if they were just wiped off the face of the earth? what are they doing? >> i think there are a couple things here, dan and i were talking, if they go ahead, and go along with this, then they are setting a tone and putting themselves at risk for midterm elections, they can't afford to lose at this pointolitically. but i think they know, that if theyment long-term tax solutions, a simplification of the tax code if that i want to talk about...
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he was just demand that the muslim brotherhood put up for election. lou: in the white house today, and i want to get your assessment, the white house press spokesman said, we are concerned about dictatorial power. we are concerned about it. we raised those concerns. he also said, the president has not spoken with him since the cease-fire or since he acquired those new powers. what is your perception of what the white house is doing in this response? >> well, come to say i'm concerned about what he is doing, we have a kind of a prominent position in egyptian politics. we have sway over egypt, money that we invested. let's face it. the egyptians have always played a very shrewd game. they did it under mubarak and not doing it. it is the equivalent of two big to fail. a big country, very important country. bacon's defense at any time. we keep hoping, but they don't. and i think there is not really my said the white house can do. lou: the net is states is so gullible or we are so acquiescent and actually feel well served by their pursuit of their interest
he was just demand that the muslim brotherhood put up for election. lou: in the white house today, and i want to get your assessment, the white house press spokesman said, we are concerned about dictatorial power. we are concerned about it. we raised those concerns. he also said, the president has not spoken with him since the cease-fire or since he acquired those new powers. what is your perception of what the white house is doing in this response? >> well, come to say i'm concerned...
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he also thinks that he just won an election which he did. he also can nominate those that he thinks is best. it's also the job of the united states senate, according to the constitution, for advice and consent. and that's our role and i take that very seriously. >> bill: all right. on tax and funding, are we going to work this out here and what's the time line? >> well, they are not meeting this week which is interesting, so there doesn't seem to be as much a sense of sur urgency as the markets indicate. depends on both sides and what they view as a lesson of the election. the republicans maintain their majority in the house. the president won a victory. i think there is every responsibility that we could kick the can down the road for six months or so by just saying put everything on hold. also, if you are willing to going to solve this problem and address it you have got to go after entitlements everybody knows that's the third rail. that's why that part has to be bipartisan the way it was with at this point o'neil and ronald reagan. >> yo
he also thinks that he just won an election which he did. he also can nominate those that he thinks is best. it's also the job of the united states senate, according to the constitution, for advice and consent. and that's our role and i take that very seriously. >> bill: all right. on tax and funding, are we going to work this out here and what's the time line? >> well, they are not meeting this week which is interesting, so there doesn't seem to be as much a sense of sur urgency as...
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even if an election is on the line. even if everybody is watching, even if it's not behind closed doors. once again, i think at the end of the day, the american people are going to get the short end of this stick because they won't see what the negotiations really were. and they'll be told on christmas eve oh, all parties have come together of the we'll have a foe foe op and we're all supposed to be happy and i would say we should look very carefully about the republican who are willing to cave on first principles without having a single sub tantive discussion on what's really on the line. i find it appalling. >> brian: you know what i find different this time? in the "new york times," they list all the democrats who have no interest in revamping any entitlements. >> of course not. not why should they? >> brian: by the way, i'm noticing what's coming up. i'm just wondering, is this the first time the president could be running into head winds with his own party? could they be to the left of the president? >> well, i moo
even if an election is on the line. even if everybody is watching, even if it's not behind closed doors. once again, i think at the end of the day, the american people are going to get the short end of this stick because they won't see what the negotiations really were. and they'll be told on christmas eve oh, all parties have come together of the we'll have a foe foe op and we're all supposed to be happy and i would say we should look very carefully about the republican who are willing to cave...
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the political reason is we had an election. the american people decided tax rates were going to go up for the top 2% of income earners. the republicans tried the alternative approach, they didn't win. move on. the fife is off -- the philosophical approach, we tried under the bush economy and it didn't help. >> sure it did. >> every single republican under the clinton administration, the economy took off and created 22 million new jobs. don't tell me tax increases will ruin the economy. warren buffett wrote an op-ed, it's a lame outdated discredited argument from the gop. stop repeating the talking points. >> larry elder, i'll give you the last word. >> may i respond. the clinton income tax hikes underproduced revenue based upon their projections. they got in less money than they thought. when clinton lowered capital gains they got in far more revenue than they thought. cutting taxes is expansionary and raising taxes is contractionary. >> this discussion still comes down to spending. >>> a man in washington who has never wavered
the political reason is we had an election. the american people decided tax rates were going to go up for the top 2% of income earners. the republicans tried the alternative approach, they didn't win. move on. the fife is off -- the philosophical approach, we tried under the bush economy and it didn't help. >> sure it did. >> every single republican under the clinton administration, the economy took off and created 22 million new jobs. don't tell me tax increases will ruin the...
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-- after he won the election. president roosevelt's policies did not bring america out of depression. world war ii did. let's hope that is not another unfortunate parallel. [ male announcer ] you are a business pro. monarch of markeng analysis. with the ability to improve roi through seo all by cob. and you...rent from national. because only national lets you choose any car in the aisle... and go. you can evenake a full-size or above, and still pay the mid-size price. i'm going b-i-g. [ male announcer ] good choice business pro. good choice. go national. go like a pro. stuart: joining the company now from chicago, larry levin with trading advantage. simple question, larry, why is the dow down when i've got a whole stack of positive news in the background? greece gets its money. home prices up for six months in a row, etc., etc., etc., but the dow is down. why? >> even a good durables goods number this morning. a little bit of a surprise to traders. we saw it today and yesterday. decent amount of institutional sell
-- after he won the election. president roosevelt's policies did not bring america out of depression. world war ii did. let's hope that is not another unfortunate parallel. [ male announcer ] you are a business pro. monarch of markeng analysis. with the ability to improve roi through seo all by cob. and you...rent from national. because only national lets you choose any car in the aisle... and go. you can evenake a full-size or above, and still pay the mid-size price. i'm going b-i-g. [ male...
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the election may be over, but it sounds an awful lot like it did before the election. back to you. liz: we need to see more action. rich, thank you very much. david: just when rich thought he'd catch up on his beauty sleep, forget about it. ain't gonna happen. all right, we have a panel of small business owners right here to discuss our debt crisis, and now the white house is following our lead, reaching out to small business owners. coming up next, one of the entrepreneurs who actually participated in the meetings. liz: plus, taking apple's theory for a drive. find out the american car maker that's ready to bring hands-free access to drives. drivers. ♪ music is a universal language. t when ias in an accident... i was worried the health care system spoke a language all its own with unidhealthcare, i got help that fit my life. information on my phone. connection to doctors who get ere i'm from. and tools to estimate what my care may cost. so i never missed a beat. we're more than 78,000 people looking out for more than 70 million americans. that's health in numbers. unitedhealthca
the election may be over, but it sounds an awful lot like it did before the election. back to you. liz: we need to see more action. rich, thank you very much. david: just when rich thought he'd catch up on his beauty sleep, forget about it. ain't gonna happen. all right, we have a panel of small business owners right here to discuss our debt crisis, and now the white house is following our lead, reaching out to small business owners. coming up next, one of the entrepreneurs who actually...
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. >> elections come and go. and when they go the spirit to find common ground becomes greater. >> reporter: georgia republican saxby chambliss and mark warner lead the gang of eight. four senate democrats and four senate republicans, who originally met in 2007 to craft a plan to cut the debt. >> you still don't have a final product after 2 1/2 years. why do shud we have any confidence that the president and the leaders should get anything done in the next two weeks? >> anything we look at we won't completely reform the tax code or completely make all the changes in the entitlement programs in the next seven weeks. over this last 2 1/2 years, we all know where the issues are. can we make enough of a down payment to assure the markets and put a real process in place that will allow us to work through this? >> reporter: chambliss says he and other republicans still oppose hiking tax rates on the wealthy, a move they contend kills jobs. instead, republicans propose limiting tax deductions for high earners. eliminati
. >> elections come and go. and when they go the spirit to find common ground becomes greater. >> reporter: georgia republican saxby chambliss and mark warner lead the gang of eight. four senate democrats and four senate republicans, who originally met in 2007 to craft a plan to cut the debt. >> you still don't have a final product after 2 1/2 years. why do shud we have any confidence that the president and the leaders should get anything done in the next two weeks? >>...
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national elections in january. ehud barak is israel's most decorated soldier. he also served as prime minister. barak has been moderating influence with the united states and powers. his decision to quit politics comes at a time of uncertainty with israel. he has clashed publicly with the prime minister there benjamin netanyahu how to handle the threat from iran's nuclear program. folks at the macy's thanksgiving day parade spotted something strange. turns out some of the confetti was actually secret police files. coming up, how social security numbers and info on undercover cops and even governor mitt romney's motorcade ended unraining down ended up raining down on the crowds. second time in just days that a bird strike sparked a mid-air emergency. that's coming up as fox reports live tonight. make a wish! i wish we could lie here forever. i wish this test drive was over, so we could head back to the dealership. [ male announcer ] it's practically yours. test drive! but we still need your signature. volkswagen sign then drive is back. and it's never been easie
national elections in january. ehud barak is israel's most decorated soldier. he also served as prime minister. barak has been moderating influence with the united states and powers. his decision to quit politics comes at a time of uncertainty with israel. he has clashed publicly with the prime minister there benjamin netanyahu how to handle the threat from iran's nuclear program. folks at the macy's thanksgiving day parade spotted something strange. turns out some of the confetti was actually...
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or romney got elected they are just two faces or two heads of the same coin and the foreign policy if the u.s. is not going to change just because we have obama in power or we have romney i love a lot of them were. very disappointed with obama that they thing having either romney or obama is not just going to be any worse than the past four years. couldn't agree more with us talk about israel you know a lot of people were talking to you during the lead up to the election the saying well here's the lesser of two evils you have romney who would definitely attack iran and then you have obama who wouldn't attack iran i personally never saw any indication that obama wouldn't attack iran i mean he said no option was off the table he said that he would draw a hard line he's been catering to netanyahu they've been competing for who can you know cater toward him more so i mean really what do you think about that like just the whole israel situation what do you think should have happened with iran and was there really between the two romney was not going to attack iran if there was an attack on
or romney got elected they are just two faces or two heads of the same coin and the foreign policy if the u.s. is not going to change just because we have obama in power or we have romney i love a lot of them were. very disappointed with obama that they thing having either romney or obama is not just going to be any worse than the past four years. couldn't agree more with us talk about israel you know a lot of people were talking to you during the lead up to the election the saying well here's...
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the market has had a terrible runs as the election. melissa: go ahead. >> i don't think you could have it both ways. the government's having terrible balance sheets and then trumpet the performance of many bonds. when it comes down to it, we are looking at is so low volume behavior in the market. at does not indicate a whole lot of certainty. melissa: what i think, if you think about the basic logic of the situation, take a dollar away from an investor, they invest less. the only time that doesn't come into affect is whenyou are warren buffett and have so many dollars you can't even keep track of the. for the average investor or the retired investor living of the dividends and has just their investments and social security try it is going to impact behavior. >> right. the average investor, the average saver who has been punished by the federal reserve. unsaying munis are great investment, but if you want to talk about government bonds, who is buying treasury bonds here? the federal reserve. as of the average investor just to get nothin
the market has had a terrible runs as the election. melissa: go ahead. >> i don't think you could have it both ways. the government's having terrible balance sheets and then trumpet the performance of many bonds. when it comes down to it, we are looking at is so low volume behavior in the market. at does not indicate a whole lot of certainty. melissa: what i think, if you think about the basic logic of the situation, take a dollar away from an investor, they invest less. the only time...
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we as the american public are fools if we would elect, re-elect anybody that sat there and watched this thing go over the cliff. the bigger issue, we are in a slow growth/no growth economy, even after we solve that what are we going to do too move this economy forward? >> what are you advising your clients to do with their money? >> one, a little bit on the conservative side, a normal account would be 50% stocks, 50% bonds, we may be about 40/60, i'm very concerned about the bond market at this point over time. >> treasury, corporates. >> wither in corps pratt, also in some alternative oriented things. secondly, i think we are in a market it makes sense to produce income. if the dow at 13, 14,000 now and 13, 14,000 in three years which could be the situation in a muddling along economy what interest in dividends you produced that period of time. if you believe this isn't going to be a high-growth economy, it leads to you producing it quickly and evenly. >> we got to get to eamonoffers in d.c. the higher tax rate you. >> where are you going to go? >> the dividends is misplaced because yo
we as the american public are fools if we would elect, re-elect anybody that sat there and watched this thing go over the cliff. the bigger issue, we are in a slow growth/no growth economy, even after we solve that what are we going to do too move this economy forward? >> what are you advising your clients to do with their money? >> one, a little bit on the conservative side, a normal account would be 50% stocks, 50% bonds, we may be about 40/60, i'm very concerned about the bond...
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so president obama won the election. what happened afterwards? "the new york times" explains the matter may have lost some urgency after november 6th. oh okay great. now that they're become in charge, get back to it without any clear rules. listen to what president obama said in october when he went on the daily show and talked about the zone strikes. >> one of the things we got to do is put a legal architecture in place and we need congressional help to do that, to make sure that not own only am i reined in but other presidents are reined in. >> there's the president of the united states of america say be saying i am not reined in. there is no legal architecture for how we're doing these killings. don't sugarcoat it. a drone strike is not a video game. they drop a bomb, and everybody underneath the bomb dies. sometimes it's kids. sometimes it's women. sometimes it's men. times we don't know who we're killing. when it was first started it was specifically targeted at known al-qaida leaders. now, not so much. quote for several years first in pakis
so president obama won the election. what happened afterwards? "the new york times" explains the matter may have lost some urgency after november 6th. oh okay great. now that they're become in charge, get back to it without any clear rules. listen to what president obama said in october when he went on the daily show and talked about the zone strikes. >> one of the things we got to do is put a legal architecture in place and we need congressional help to do that, to make sure...
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ever since the election it has pulled back along with the rest of the market to the point where it's now almost back to where it was before the announcement. it's time to buy, people. bottom line, you want a real cyber monday deal, go buy yourself -- >> buy, buy, buy. >> -- some federal express. robert in illinois. robert? yo, robert? >> caller: praying for the eagles tonight. >> yeah. we need divine intervention. good you pointed that out. what's up? >> caller: electronic gear this holiday season, and i think this stock has a lot of upside due to the increased volume of sales at this time of year. the stock is skul. >> i felt it's too much of a commodity. i don't like stuff that's sold in those particular stores that they're there. i've been recommending the sale of skullcandy, around since 14, 15. the stock did go up to 16, made me look bad momentarily. i stuck by my guns. i still think you should sell skullcandy. fernando in california. fernando? >> caller: [ inaudible ]. >> okie doke. >> caller: coming into the fourth quarter for holiday season with all the names it picked up. >>
ever since the election it has pulled back along with the rest of the market to the point where it's now almost back to where it was before the announcement. it's time to buy, people. bottom line, you want a real cyber monday deal, go buy yourself -- >> buy, buy, buy. >> -- some federal express. robert in illinois. robert? yo, robert? >> caller: praying for the eagles tonight. >> yeah. we need divine intervention. good you pointed that out. what's up? >> caller:...
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cheryl: after the last election, the november election, it was a referendum on many republicans. some of them walked away and said, okay, we did not get the senate back, we are moving forward. our republican candidates did not win the presidency were many officers. >> people were looking round the waist deep in seeing a lot of their friends have lost. barack obama may have won the white house, but e republicans do have the house of representatives. the american public is saying that we should stick to the principal principle message that we have said. washington is running way too much money. there may be differences in want of other issues, t on this one, most americans agree that there's too much waste and fraud and abuse and let's eliminate that. cheryl: where do they fit nto this scenario? fatcat ceos, those from honeywell, allstate, do you think that that is going to be a sitive conversation? will congressional leaders listen? >> i would think that they have been listening to the ceos all along. and even lookng at wall street and main street and they all say the same thing.
cheryl: after the last election, the november election, it was a referendum on many republicans. some of them walked away and said, okay, we did not get the senate back, we are moving forward. our republican candidates did not win the presidency were many officers. >> people were looking round the waist deep in seeing a lot of their friends have lost. barack obama may have won the white house, but e republicans do have the house of representatives. the american public is saying that we...
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>> they backed up everything right before the election. they held a lot of those back. i have not looked at all of the rules so i cannot tell you about all of them. i can tell you that i think some of them are pushing the envelope. sometimes they push the envelope because that is moving technology forward. i always have a skepticism when there is an immediate, no, no, you cannot possibly do this. if you sit down with the people and that is what i think they have not done is bring everybody to the table and sit down and say how do we reach this goal. understand where we are coming from. how do we do this together so you can pick to continue to create jobs. dagen: thank you. connell: the least respected companies turning out to be some of the biggest gainers we have seen here in the last couple months. dagen: loving a loser. that does not describe sandra smith. sandra: take a look at the nasdaq. the tech heavy nasdaq just barely in negative territory. research in motion, the maker of the blackberry, everyone is questioning about whether or not this company would survive.
>> they backed up everything right before the election. they held a lot of those back. i have not looked at all of the rules so i cannot tell you about all of them. i can tell you that i think some of them are pushing the envelope. sometimes they push the envelope because that is moving technology forward. i always have a skepticism when there is an immediate, no, no, you cannot possibly do this. if you sit down with the people and that is what i think they have not done is bring...
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let's not forget, it was the majority of the people in egypt that elected morsi, elected the muslim brotherhood, and game 7 the musliand gave themuslim bro. over 70% in somethings want thaa law. we're seeing a dictatorship in the making. >> sean: was this radical islamist given a win, and was hamas given credibility whose charter calls for the destruction of israel, giving billions in aid? >> yes, they did, because what this administration is blind to is the fact that hamas is an offshoot of the muslim brotherhood. hamas looked at morsi with respect because he's a leader in the muslim brotherhood. basically we have the morsi and muslim brotherhood camps together coming, fooling the israelis in the world, with a truce, so hamas can rearm itself and come back with a confrontation. >> sean: i agree with you. i think obama and clinton gave hamas and morsi a win here. here's the question here, michael. why don't we cut off any aid to egypt unless and until they have real democracy? would that be fair? >> i am with you, and it is fair. but remember charles krauthammer on your show a few months ago, h
let's not forget, it was the majority of the people in egypt that elected morsi, elected the muslim brotherhood, and game 7 the musliand gave themuslim bro. over 70% in somethings want thaa law. we're seeing a dictatorship in the making. >> sean: was this radical islamist given a win, and was hamas given credibility whose charter calls for the destruction of israel, giving billions in aid? >> yes, they did, because what this administration is blind to is the fact that hamas is an...
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coming on i think you're a fan so at this point we're merely just a few days away from the presidential election you've always known the two party system is a sham now that obama has been such a failure in his presidency bringing forward any progressive progressivism whatsoever do you think people are starting to wake up to the two party dictatorship not really i think very small children are taught in schools through scholastic magazine when they have these mock trials for boodle school students there are only two parties so they have the republican and democrat and then they have sort of a blank so they grow up in a winner take all system with an electoral college where you can come in second in a popular vote and become president and they see no other alternative so they say well i want to be with the winner so i'll just vote for one of the two parties and i'm like who vote for the one of the two parties of my grandparents voted for called hereditary voters vote republican you go democrat so we have a huge job in this country to up end the two party dictatorship and that's what it really is i
coming on i think you're a fan so at this point we're merely just a few days away from the presidential election you've always known the two party system is a sham now that obama has been such a failure in his presidency bringing forward any progressive progressivism whatsoever do you think people are starting to wake up to the two party dictatorship not really i think very small children are taught in schools through scholastic magazine when they have these mock trials for boodle school...
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and christie is getting his re-election campaign ramped up. he has unprecedentedly high approval rating. >> after sandy. and he says this is a job he feels leak he needs to continue. >> stanley wants him to stay. some other corporate news involving erickson. it's filed a lawsuit against samsung alleging patent infringement. ericcson says two years to trike a deal were unsuccessful. and an hp shareholder filed a lawsuit alleging the tech company's top executives misled investors about two key acquisitions that have caused billions of dollars in losses. the lawsuit alleges that hp management concealed the problems and another recent acquisition which we've talked about, electronic data, in an attempt to boost hp stock price. meantime in the "wall street journal," former employees, business partners and attorney attorneys say it's not difficult to conclude that the company autonomy's accounting was overly aggressive, they say such behavior tip filed autonomy long before hp bought it. and mike lynch says the company's culture was aggressive. >> th
and christie is getting his re-election campaign ramped up. he has unprecedentedly high approval rating. >> after sandy. and he says this is a job he feels leak he needs to continue. >> stanley wants him to stay. some other corporate news involving erickson. it's filed a lawsuit against samsung alleging patent infringement. ericcson says two years to trike a deal were unsuccessful. and an hp shareholder filed a lawsuit alleging the tech company's top executives misled investors...
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this is big news. >>> this is not just the re-election of a president. this is the rebuffing, if that's the right word, of the republicans. look, i think there are many lessons to be learned over this election. there was a not ideal candidate. it was a not ideal campaign, et cetera, et cetera. romney's economic programs reflected the concerns of wall street as opposed to the concerns of regular folk coming up. >> that was peggy noonan yesterday, still beating up on mitt romney and his campaign for losing the election. the person the republicans are not willing to attack publicly any way is new jersey governor, chris christie, who filed the papers today to run for re-election in 2013 and is now the republican front-runner for the nomination in 2016. the chairman of the republican governors association was quick to issue this statement about christie's decision to seek a second term. christie exemplifies the type of leadership new jersey residents expect from their governor. jindal goes on to heap praise on christie. jindal was one of the prominent republi
this is big news. >>> this is not just the re-election of a president. this is the rebuffing, if that's the right word, of the republicans. look, i think there are many lessons to be learned over this election. there was a not ideal candidate. it was a not ideal campaign, et cetera, et cetera. romney's economic programs reflected the concerns of wall street as opposed to the concerns of regular folk coming up. >> that was peggy noonan yesterday, still beating up on mitt romney...
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he filed papers with election officials earlier. a formal announcement is expected in january. >>> in egypt, another protest is planned for tomorrow. many are angry with president morsi's attempts to get additional powers. and planning to finish his current term, ehud barak will not seek re-election in january. back to "hardball." >>> welcome back to "hardball." anti-tax crusader grover norquist has been called the most powerful man in washington, but is his influence on the wane? >> i'm not obligated on the pledge. made tennesseans aware, i was just elected, the only thing i'm honoring is the oath i take when i'm sworn in this january. >> when you're $16 trillion in debt, the only pledge we should be making to each other is to avoid becoming greece, and republicans should put revenue on the table. i will violate the pledge, long story short, for the good of the country, only if democrats will do entitlement reform. >> a pledge you signed 20 years ago, 18 years ago is for that congress. for instance, if i were in congress in 1941, i
he filed papers with election officials earlier. a formal announcement is expected in january. >>> in egypt, another protest is planned for tomorrow. many are angry with president morsi's attempts to get additional powers. and planning to finish his current term, ehud barak will not seek re-election in january. back to "hardball." >>> welcome back to "hardball." anti-tax crusader grover norquist has been called the most powerful man in washington, but is...
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what do you make of it and their attitude before and after the election? they really weren't going to lose, and they haven't really in some strange way because they got the house. >> yeah. well, this attitude has built up over time over the years. they didn't really think bill clinton was legitimate because ross perot they thought cost him the election. they thought that obama's original election was a freak on account of bush being such a terrible president, and they were not equipped to deal with this defeat, and this was a real defeat because it was a defeat across the board for the republican party. yes, they kept the house, but guess who got more votes? democratic candidates of the house got more votes than republican candidates of the house, and these -- it may not make any difference constitutionally, but it makes a moral difference. >> and they like to hang on it. i think there's more to their sense of entitlement. shortly after the romney/ryan ticket lost, 26 states won just over 47% of the vote. in other words, did worse than john kerry in 2004.
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so when he runs for re-election in 2013 and if he wins re-election, then the clamor for him to get in the races in 2016 is only going to get louder. >> jonathan capehart gets tonight's last word. thanks, jonathan. >> "the ed show" is up next. >>> good evening, americans. welcome to "the ed show" from new york. new comments on the fiscal cliff have liberals deeply concerned tonight. this is "the ed show." let's get to work. >> this is going to get hairy. it's always harrier than it should be. >> democrats hold all the cards in fiscal cliff negotiations, but you wouldn't know it from these remarks from white house senior advisor david plouffe. >> the big
so when he runs for re-election in 2013 and if he wins re-election, then the clamor for him to get in the races in 2016 is only going to get louder. >> jonathan capehart gets tonight's last word. thanks, jonathan. >> "the ed show" is up next. >>> good evening, americans. welcome to "the ed show" from new york. new comments on the fiscal cliff have liberals deeply concerned tonight. this is "the ed show." let's get to work. >> this is...
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above so you can go to the polls and vote no to all the candidates and if it wins so it's a new new election a new candidate they won't even support something like that which i think about eighty five ninety percent of the people in america would support and we see tens of millions of people that aren't even participating in the election probably because of that you know they don't subscribe to this mandate that gives these presidents to continue these policies i wanted to play a sound bite from michael moore that i thought was really interesting it's very illustrative what i'm saying yeah let's play the sound bite really quickly. michael and i are going to get down on our knees and beg you i thought. i was hearing. her. say you know this is so interesting because for years prior to that i remember michael moore your rally saying the lesser of two evils is still if i mean what happened and he's saying you're a great american don't run what happened well politically michael moore switched and he became a democrat big d. and that was so it was true that clip because here you have two well know
above so you can go to the polls and vote no to all the candidates and if it wins so it's a new new election a new candidate they won't even support something like that which i think about eighty five ninety percent of the people in america would support and we see tens of millions of people that aren't even participating in the election probably because of that you know they don't subscribe to this mandate that gives these presidents to continue these policies i wanted to play a sound bite...
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>> i'm glad he got re-elected. i think he has a lot of things in his favor, the things that he has ran on. the women all believe in the things that he's talking about. the blacks and the hispanics and the women and if you have those three things on your side, you're going to win. >> would you categorize -- are you a democrat? how would you describe yourself? >> i'm not really. what was his name? he said i wouldn't want to belong to any club that would have me in there. >> groucho ma rx said that. >> did you vote this time? >> no. >> why not? >> i had all kinds of excuses. i was traveling and i had to do an absentee and i couldn't do it. there was really no excuse. i was just -- i didn't do it. >> you didn't feel passionately enough about early candidate? >> i felt like obama was going to win and he didn't needed one more vote. you grew up around guns. what do you make of the gun debate in america? >> well, you know, i've had you noted all my life, and, you know, when i was a young i had a b.b. gun and a shotgun and
>> i'm glad he got re-elected. i think he has a lot of things in his favor, the things that he has ran on. the women all believe in the things that he's talking about. the blacks and the hispanics and the women and if you have those three things on your side, you're going to win. >> would you categorize -- are you a democrat? how would you describe yourself? >> i'm not really. what was his name? he said i wouldn't want to belong to any club that would have me in there....
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we congratulate him on his re-election. what we don't know is whether he has the leadership qualities necessary to lead his party to a bipartisan agreement. >> mr. one-term-president mcconnell is resorting to name-calling. the gop lost because of this attitude. and now they're just looking like a lost cause. joining me now is steve car kna krystal ball. why doesn't the gop look to chris christie assist a role model? he's the most popular person in their party right now? >> hopefully some in the gop do. you have to remember that a lot of people, a lot of folks in the republican party were very upset with chris christie for being so bipartisan, for -- for daring to compliment the president for his responsiveness in hurricane sandy, so there's still some upset there over that. you know, i think the other thing this points out, you were mentioning, chris christie underscoring how important bipartisanship and cooperation is to voters. the other thing i think it underscores is how effective government is important to voters. peel
we congratulate him on his re-election. what we don't know is whether he has the leadership qualities necessary to lead his party to a bipartisan agreement. >> mr. one-term-president mcconnell is resorting to name-calling. the gop lost because of this attitude. and now they're just looking like a lost cause. joining me now is steve car kna krystal ball. why doesn't the gop look to chris christie assist a role model? he's the most popular person in their party right now? >> hopefully...
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it's like the election didn't happen. it's back to where the president was negotiating with republicans having a stronger hand threatening the full phase of the government and economic collapse. he won. he won big about talking about taxing the upper income people and not hitting the middle class with more cuts and social security, medicare and medicaid. social security, not a penny to the deficit. medicare, he wants $250 million over a quarter of a year. that saves for medicare. and medicaid is more essential now than it's ever been and it's a key part of obama care. i don't know what mr. plouffe was talking about. i think he got the republican talking points mixed up with his. >> that was my first impression when i saw the videotape as well. the question comes up. what are you willing to accept in a deal when it comes to programs like medicare and medicaid? >> look, this december should be about revenues. then we can go on to have discussions about the long-term solvency and where medicare fits in and the changes coming
it's like the election didn't happen. it's back to where the president was negotiating with republicans having a stronger hand threatening the full phase of the government and economic collapse. he won. he won big about talking about taxing the upper income people and not hitting the middle class with more cuts and social security, medicare and medicaid. social security, not a penny to the deficit. medicare, he wants $250 million over a quarter of a year. that saves for medicare. and medicaid...
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the election is over! the people have spoken, and the balance of power is exactly the same as it was before. ( laughter ) is gridlock inevitable or is there a solution? al madrigal has more. >> by re-electing barack obama and leaving congress intact, voters changed basically nothing. it appears we're facing years of inaction. but it doesn't have to be that way. according to jonathan miller of the reform group no labels. >> the biggest problem in washington is gridlock. we have democrats and republicans each behind their own bunkers and we don't get the work done that the constitution requires. >> what would do you to break gridlock? >> no labels has a 12-point plan called make congress work. >> you're going to make me listen to all 12 steps, right? >> i would like for to you listen to all 12. >> okay. >> step one, if congress doesn't pass a budget, then they don't get paid. second, be willing to compromise with the other side. step three, we want to fix the filibuster, step four-- >> is $119 a month too mu
the election is over! the people have spoken, and the balance of power is exactly the same as it was before. ( laughter ) is gridlock inevitable or is there a solution? al madrigal has more. >> by re-electing barack obama and leaving congress intact, voters changed basically nothing. it appears we're facing years of inaction. but it doesn't have to be that way. according to jonathan miller of the reform group no labels. >> the biggest problem in washington is gridlock. we have...
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you can still help us grade the 2012 election. we partnered with the pew research center to create a voter satisfaction quiz. fill it out and share it with friends. that's on our home page. >> brown: again, the major developments of the day. retailers hoped for a surge of cyber monday online sales, following a strong weekend start to the holiday shopping season. mary schapiro resigned after nearly four years as chair of the securities and exchange commission. she helped shape the federal response to the financial crisis of 2008. and thousands of people in bangladesh protested after more than 100 garment workers died in a factory fire. and for more of tonight's subjects online, including this week's installment of "ask larry," we turn to hari sreenivasan. >> sreenivasan: our social security guru addresses some of the most frequently asked questions about retirement benefits and some you may not have thought of, all on our business page. on our science roundup, the u.n. summit on climate change is under way in doha. what impact will
you can still help us grade the 2012 election. we partnered with the pew research center to create a voter satisfaction quiz. fill it out and share it with friends. that's on our home page. >> brown: again, the major developments of the day. retailers hoped for a surge of cyber monday online sales, following a strong weekend start to the holiday shopping season. mary schapiro resigned after nearly four years as chair of the securities and exchange commission. she helped shape the federal...
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i was just elected. the only thing i'm honoring is the oath that i take that i've sworn in in january. >> that is the sound of cracks forming in grover norquist's facade. he's the guy who gets republicans to sign a pledge that they will never ever under any circumstances raise taxes. but with the fiscal cliff looming, there's a growing consensus that taxes may have to go up. norquist said those who reneged would pay a price. >> would you target some of them? >> we would certainly highlight who has kept their commitment and who hasn't. >> fortunately for grover, but unfortunately for those who want everyone to contribute their fair share there are plenty of republicans caught in the pass, plenty who can't accept that president obama won reelection >> there are some republicans who recognize they did lose and that new revenue new tax revenue will have to be part of any deficit deal. i noticed mitch mcconnell's talked about tax rates. he's going to insist that tax rates not go any higher. you've got the mat
i was just elected. the only thing i'm honoring is the oath that i take that i've sworn in in january. >> that is the sound of cracks forming in grover norquist's facade. he's the guy who gets republicans to sign a pledge that they will never ever under any circumstances raise taxes. but with the fiscal cliff looming, there's a growing consensus that taxes may have to go up. norquist said those who reneged would pay a price. >> would you target some of them? >> we would...
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the election is behind us. whatever short-term advantage the majority may have felt it had by protecting its members from voting on almost everything is over. we don't need to have a perpetual election in the country. we have huge issues before us here at the end of the year, much of which will probably carry over into next year. it's a time that we ought to be building collegiality and relationships and not making incendiary moves that are damaging to the institution and could have serious ramifications on our ability to work together here at the end of the year. so i would encourage my friend, the majority leader, to think thoroughly through whether this is the direction he wants to take this body. i think it is a huge mistake. the american people sent us here to solve big problems and we ought to be concentrating on trying to bring everybody together behind an agreement -- hopefully it can be reached here before the end of the year -- to do really, really important work for the american people. mr. reid: mr.
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right after the american elections, and right before the iranian elections start. remember back in 2008 we were in the same point in the cycle, except right now underground, the situation is much worse. it is more fissile material. there is more ill will. and there is less of an optimism. so i would say this is the perfect time to start the negotiations. in 2008 the obama administration didn't go for it. calculating, rationally, that probablyal settlement of the issue at the time would benefit president ahmadinejad and help him in his bid for a second round. well, we all know what happened. that election didn't work. there was unrest in the streets. and the turmoil completely consumed the rest of that year. so basically i think this is as good as any time to start the negotiations. what is stopping us from doing this? of course there is the sin ergey of inaction on -- synergy of inaction on both sides and invested political interests to generate a kind of in ground solidarity from the image of a demonized other. on the other side. but there is only one way to break
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it's like the election didn't happen. it's kind of back to where the president was negotiating with the republicans when they had a stronger hand and threatening the full faith and credit of the united states of america and economic collapse. he won big about talking about taxing the upper income people. and you know, not hitting the middle class with more cuts and social security, medicare, medicaid. social security not a penny to the debt or deficit. medicare, he wants a quart of a billion over ten years, easy. let's negotiate prescription drug prices like every other advanced industrial nation in the world does. that saves a quarter of a billion dollars a year for med care. medicaid is a key part of obama i don't know and what mr. plouffe was talking about. i think he got the republican talking points mixed up with his. >> you know what? that was my first impression when i saw the videotape, as well. the question comes up, what are you willing to accept in a deal when it comes to programs like medicare and medicaid? >>
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i understand before the election because they didn't want to do something to hurt obama re-election. his eselection over. no interest. sex scandal looked salacious. now that has faded away the one way to be kept alive is the season rice nomination. >> bret: is she nominated? >> probably yes. but the real interest in that is not who gets nominated or appointed but it will highlight the scandal otherwisic noreed. >> bret: yes or no? >> i think she gets nominated. >> sounds like he wants to do it. >> next up, the president goes on the road to talk about the fiscal cliff. we use this board to compare car insurance rates side by side so you get the same coverage, often for less. that's one smart board. what else does it do, reverse gravity? [ laughs ] [ laughs ] [ whooshing ] tell me about it. why am i not going anywhere? you don't believe hard enough. a smarter way to shop around. now that's progressive. call or click today. [ grunting ] >>> let me suggest if the president wants a solution to challenges at the moment the people he needs to talk to are the members of his own party so he c
i understand before the election because they didn't want to do something to hurt obama re-election. his eselection over. no interest. sex scandal looked salacious. now that has faded away the one way to be kept alive is the season rice nomination. >> bret: is she nominated? >> probably yes. but the real interest in that is not who gets nominated or appointed but it will highlight the scandal otherwisic noreed. >> bret: yes or no? >> i think she gets nominated. >>...
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presidential election. now we come to the cliff. if we get a deal done, this market needs a catalyst, david. that can be the catalyst forward because buyers frankly are in a wait and see mode and they have been. there's not been a lot of risk to not acting. in fact, the risk har to action. despite the fact that the fundamentals have been for the last couple years the best fundamentals we've ever seen. >> investors reacted positive to deals including today. back to the fiscal cliff. all right. let's say we get a resolution. right away, m&a activity heats up. take me how it will help. >> i think in the first quarter following a deal you will see a resurgence but it won't be dramatic. but that activity will cause buyers to believe there's finally risk to not acting. what we need is a consequence to inaction. that will be deals that will be announced in the quarter following the cliff, which i absolutely believe they will be. we've got deals on the shelf that are waiting for this kind of activity. those deals move into the market. senti
presidential election. now we come to the cliff. if we get a deal done, this market needs a catalyst, david. that can be the catalyst forward because buyers frankly are in a wait and see mode and they have been. there's not been a lot of risk to not acting. in fact, the risk har to action. despite the fact that the fundamentals have been for the last couple years the best fundamentals we've ever seen. >> investors reacted positive to deals including today. back to the fiscal cliff. all...
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individual missions but a permanent policy one that we now know was sketched out in specific terms before election day just in case mitt romney would have won and ministration officials were concerned that if clear standards and procedures were not in place the targeted killings would simply be dictated by whoever is in office as opposed to having that set of rules and guidelines in place to stick to talk more about this i was joined earlier by colonel morris davis a professor at howard university school of law as well as a former prosecutor at guantanamo bay now we first discussed how doesn't seem to be an end in sight for the war on terror you know war on terror is a war without end because really a war on a tactic not a group of people you know terror camps surrenders will be fighting this war for you know long as we move yeah and it we should mention you know even though president obama did win a second term this sort of you know drone strike architecture is still being drawn up for future leaders for it for you know the twenty sixteen president whoever that might be what do you think that say
individual missions but a permanent policy one that we now know was sketched out in specific terms before election day just in case mitt romney would have won and ministration officials were concerned that if clear standards and procedures were not in place the targeted killings would simply be dictated by whoever is in office as opposed to having that set of rules and guidelines in place to stick to talk more about this i was joined earlier by colonel morris davis a professor at howard...
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they elected to be there. it is a tragic loss of life, but it's not one that we, you know, obviously as the senator said, this is a terrible intelligence failure. but what is the case moving forward? now that rice has gone up there and done her due diligence with meeting three of her harshest critics, how does she move on from this if she is the one, again, by these three senators be pinned with, well, she was wrong the whole time? >> thomas, that's a good question. i would say that the focus here, i really think should be on what happened catching these terrorists and making sure it doesn't happen again. and i think with this overheated rhetoric, we're missing the point, and that is to really investigate the security around the consulate and then what happened afterwards. and i think that's where we should be focusing our energy. i think that, look, if the president chooses to nominate her to be secretary of state, she's very well qualified. she should be able to receive a fair hearing from in the senate. and
they elected to be there. it is a tragic loss of life, but it's not one that we, you know, obviously as the senator said, this is a terrible intelligence failure. but what is the case moving forward? now that rice has gone up there and done her due diligence with meeting three of her harshest critics, how does she move on from this if she is the one, again, by these three senators be pinned with, well, she was wrong the whole time? >> thomas, that's a good question. i would say that the...